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Idaho is Ron Paul Country, Come One Come All!

Post by hawkiye on Wed 04 Jun 2008, 5:12 pm

This was started on DP but I wanted to invite all freedom lovers to come to Idaho and help build a truly free state!

Idaho is great place. It has it's problems, however if we could get enough Ron Paul supporters to move here we could easily solve them.

The Boise area is like a mini Silicon Valley with Micron and Hewlet Packard here and various smaller high tech companies so there are jobs although we are experiencing a slow down like everyone else due to national monetary and other bad policies.

Idaho was part of the Western Alliance for Liberty (WAL) which included Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. It was a spin off of the Free State Project after NH was chosen as the Free State. We have the farthest inland port in the country on the Columbia River for trade and we have a border with Canada.

We have some of the most beautiful country on the planet and some of the best hunting and fishing on the planet here also with abundant Deer, Elk, Turkey etc. We also have all the outdoor sports here from skiing to whitewater rafting to hiking and climbing etc.

Yes we have an income and a sales tax and there have been some movements to abolish them in the past that failed. So come help us get rid of them! There is currently a move to lower or abolish property taxes.

The universities here have done extensive research and development in Biofuels like Biodiesel and Ethanol and we recently completed the largest Ethanol plant in the western states here in Bule Idaho also.

We have had the honor in the past of having the most elected Libertarians. Lots of strong self reliant freedom minded folks here in Idaho but we have a few socialist and sheeple also. And had some more of them moving in during the housing boom/bubble run up Which is where you come in. We donít have far to go to take control of the state with Ron Paul supporters and those favorable to the principles of freedom.

We even had one of those Sheriffs in one of our counties who stood down the Feds and won. Lots of second amendment supporters here. Machineguns are legal here ;-)

So as the original poster said come on up and lets build a state that truly lives by the principles of freedom and the constitution. Bring your talents and your business and your love of freedom we need you.

Some places to look at the job market are Boisehelpwanted.com, Idahostatesment.com Idaho press tribune, American classifieds Boise area. And here is a list for the state: http://www.50states.com/n...

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The only way that will work
On June 4th, 2008 Skyorbit says:

The only way that will work is Secession.

I'm all for that though I suppose.

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The whole North West
On June 4th, 2008 AnnieGun says:

I agree - Idaho, in fact the whole north west is more RP friendly than anywhere else - Washington, Montana and Idaho and even Oregon, especially more than the loser south - Huckaboo territory.

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I have a feeling...
On June 4th, 2008 IMissLiberty says:

I have a feeling that you can't move for freedom: you have to pick your spot and fight for it. No matter how many allies you have in one state, you still have problems with Congress, the IRS, the Federal Reserve, etc.

The key is to pick your battles and fight them. That's why I joined the Libertarian Party years ago; at least I'm not alone.

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Idaho could be more easily taken.
On June 4th, 2008 CarrotTop says:

than other states. There aren't that many people here, and a good percentage already like freedom. It would be easier to elect a non-bozo governor who wouldn't knuckle under to the feds if we had more Ron Paul supporters up here. It would also be easier to elect senators, etc who couldn't be bribed because of their personal life (like the man of the "wide stance" fame). I could make a list of bad things that we could easily make disappear if we had more good folks here. Yes, there would still be problems with the IRS, and such, but we could do a lot to lower taxes and reduce Boise's regulations on ourselves.

So, if you want to make a real strategic move, Idaho is the place.


Actually if we had a state
On June 4th, 2008 hawkiye says:

Actually if we had a state full of freedom lovers we could nullify the federal government back to their constitutional role by exercising our state sovereignty by electing a state governor and others who have the courage to stand up to the feds. The feds can only pull federal funds from the state if we refuse their unconstitutional mandates that is their ace in the hole. If we do as paul4won suggests and build up local and state economy to function without need of federal funds (which is doable) then we could truly be a free state.

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Montana is the best choice
On June 4th, 2008 Kevin Tuma says:

Montana is the best choice for a "Free State West." I'm an ex-Free State Project person, and I know folks who have been discussing this for years.

Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming all have advantages, but Montana is the largest state with the most agricultural resources, the smallest percentage of government land (Idaho is something like 85% government-owned land) and the longest history of resistance to federal mandates.

This mini-thread should go on New Freelanders, Hawkiye.

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Cool I am an ex free stater
On June 4th, 2008 hawkiye says:

Cool I am an ex free stater also and I was involved in putting WAL together.

I certainly agree Montana would be a good state to do it in also. And if folks moved there instead I would certainly consider moving there also.

One of the draw backs to Montana is the winter weather. Idaho has a swath from south to north in the western part of the state the runs the whole state with relatively mild winters called the banana belt. Boise and surrounding is in that belt

As for government owned land there is already a movement in the legislature to get that land back in Idaho's hands. Also again if we elect a governor and others who will stand up for states rights we can take it back lawfully.

You may be right but I am not sure on agricultural resources due to weather in Montana. Montana definitely has more land mass but how much is farmland and how long are the growing seasons? The banana belt here in Idaho has a lot of farmland. Could be worth checking into to verify.

The other things is if one of the states like Idaho did it and made it work I bet it would inspire Montana definitely and perhaps Wyoming and others to follow suit.

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DOABLE? Let's put our heads together...
On June 4th, 2008 PFMPE.mike.montagne says:

About 15 years ago, a whole slew of folks (some of whom are prominent RP people now), wanted freedom and constitution advocates to move to one state and head the direction suggested by this thread. They couldn't decide on a state; I was invited to help make MPE the core economic principle; then no one could agree on anything, not even simple facts.

I will say however that I'm not far from Idaho, and that just last year in fact had a wonderful encounter in a park which started with some people watching and discussing software code, and ended up in a whole evening's discussion of mathematically perfected economy, with folks who were sharp enough not just to get it, but to be thinking and asking ahead to issues such as preserving it, and protecting its establishment.

If folks want to do this; I'll certainly help.

Regards,

mike montagne -- founder of PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy, and author of mathematically perfected economy (1979)

http://www.perfecteconomy...
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Re: Idaho is Ron Paul Country, Come One Come All!

Post by Anarchist on Mon 16 Jun 2008, 11:53 am

"IDAHO is what AMERICA was"
New Hampshire Pop. 1.3 million est.
IDAHO Pop. 1.3 million est.
New Hampshire 720,000 +/- registered voters.
IDAHO 720,000 +/- registered voters
New Hampshire 8969 sq mi. 44th
IDAHO 82751 sq mi. 11th
IDAHO 61% Federal Land
IDAHO 4% State Land
IDAHO Farm land [acres] 11,767,294 - 18,386 sq mi. - 2X the size of the State of NH
IDAHO Economy
http://www.webs.uidaho.edu/idstats/chapter08/chapter08.htm
http://www.webs.uidaho.edu/idstats/chapter09/chapter09.htm
http://www.webs.uidaho.edu/idstats/chapter10/chapter10.htm
http://www.webs.uidaho.edu/idstats/chapter11/chapter11.htm
http://www.webs.uidaho.edu/idstats/chapter12/chapter12.htm
http://www.webs.uidaho.edu/idstats/chapter13/chapter13.htm
http://www.webs.uidaho.edu/idstats/chapter14/chapter14.htm
http://www.webs.uidaho.edu/idstats/chapter15/chapter15.htm
http://www.webs.uidaho.edu/idstats/chapter16/chapter16.htm
When compared to New Hampshire, Idaho wins hands down.

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Buy Idaho?

Post by MontgomeryScott on Fri 18 Jul 2008, 11:00 pm

Surely you are NOT asking the dirty, enslaved masses to come here, are you? The paving over of Meridian, Emmett, Middleton, and other prime farmlands with PCB laden, OSB 'homes', built by the Illegals, is destroying our state, and this country.
You ARE not serious, are you, Hawkeye?
If you wish to live like this, go back to whatever Godforsaken state you CAME from, and I can think of many, including the never-mentioned 'C' word.
I would guess, by your posting, that you would be happier there in the hustle and bustle of the machine that has become 'America', but you DO NOT have to be HERE, where life is better, and things move a little slower. WE LIKE IT LIKE THIS, Hawk, and there is a limit to the tolerance that Idahoans have, and it is coming up NOW, Caldwell-dweller.
I guess that I have to move to Montana, now---
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Re: Idaho is Ron Paul Country, Come One Come All!

Post by Anarchist on Sat 19 Jul 2008, 7:00 am

Monty wrote:"Surely you are NOT asking the dirty, enslaved masses to come here, are
you? The paving over of Meridian, Emmett, Middleton, and other prime
farmlands with PCB laden, OSB 'homes', built by the Illegals, is
destroying our state, and this country.
You ARE not serious, are you, Hawkeye?"

Monty, I believe you have misinterpreted Hawkiye's opinion of who the invitation was extended to as I have done. As with the Free State Project the invitation was extended to freedom loving believers in the Constitution , Individual Rights and Property Rights not the greedy opportunists that you reference. They will always seek out every opportunity to expand their lust for power and money.

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Re: Idaho is Ron Paul Country, Come One Come All!

Post by hawkiye on Mon 21 Jul 2008, 4:39 pm

MontgomeryScott wrote:Surely you are NOT asking the dirty, enslaved masses to come here, are you? The paving over of Meridian, Emmett, Middleton, and other prime farmlands with PCB laden, OSB 'homes', built by the Illegals, is destroying our state, and this country.
You ARE not serious, are you, Hawkeye?
If you wish to live like this, go back to whatever Godforsaken state you CAME from, and I can think of many, including the never-mentioned 'C' word.
I would guess, by your posting, that you would be happier there in the hustle and bustle of the machine that has become 'America', but you DO NOT have to be HERE, where life is better, and things move a little slower. WE LIKE IT LIKE THIS, Hawk, and there is a limit to the tolerance that Idahoans have, and it is coming up NOW, Caldwell-dweller.
I guess that I have to move to Montana, now---
MontgomeryScott

Wow if you imagine a conclusion you sure jump don't you.

What Anarchist said!

And please read the posts better before you comment. Also If you were unsure as in the first part of your post and you were asking what I meant then give the time to answer before you jump to conclusions.

We need more patriots in Idaho obviously. People coming from other states is not the problem as some like to blame it on, they are a drop in the bucket. We have plenty of natives who don't have a clue either or we wouldn't need more patriots here to stem the tide. So before you go lecturing folks ad talking down to them based on what part of Idaho they are from do your homework first.

Oh And do please let us know what it is you have done for freedom lately in Idaho?
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Re: Idaho is Ron Paul Country, Come One Come All!

Post by freecharlotte on Wed 17 Dec 2008, 11:00 am

As a Texan and a Freedom loving individual, You can count me in for at least 10 acres(I realize this isn't much, but at this time would be all I could afford to purchase with FRNs). The freestate project is a good idea , but it is simply isnot for me. With that said, I am all for making my home in this particular Idaho county due to the fact that it has much to offer for growing your own food, fellow freedom/liberty lovers... etc.

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Re: Idaho is Ron Paul Country, Come One Come All!

Post by hawkiye on Thu 18 Dec 2008, 2:41 pm

freecharlotte wrote:As a Texan and a Freedom loving individual, You can count me in for at least 10 acres(I realize this isn't much, but at this time would be all I could afford to purchase with FRNs). The freestate project is a good idea , but it is simply isnot for me. With that said, I am all for making my home in this particular Idaho county due to the fact that it has much to offer for growing your own food, fellow freedom/liberty lovers... etc.

Great to have you on board. We might be able to get the price down further. Idaho county is a great place to live. My brother lives in the area right now ( I first showed it to him years ago). and every time I go there I never want to leave.
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Re: Idaho is Ron Paul Country, Come One Come All!

Post by williamforliberty on Fri 19 Dec 2008, 9:06 am

Hawkiye,


Do you have a family? We have a family of five and want to become self sufficient. Have been thinking of moving to Tennessee to buy property. How much interest have you gotten from other families? We have around 25 k to spend on land and more to build a house. We may be open to the great West. Love it out there. Spent two years in Bend, Ore. We have three children ages: 4, 8 and 11.

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Re: Idaho is Ron Paul Country, Come One Come All!

Post by hawkiye on Fri 19 Dec 2008, 9:31 am

williamforliberty wrote:Hawkiye,


Do you have a family? We have a family of five and want to become self sufficient. Have been thinking of moving to Tennessee to buy property. How much interest have you gotten from other families? We have around 25 k to spend on land and more to build a house. We may be open to the great West. Love it out there. Spent two years in Bend, Ore. We have three children ages: 4, 8 and 11.

We have 3 kids 21, 19, and 17. The two younger are still at home, oldest is married. We are getting a lot of interest so far. However it's hard to gauge who is really serious about doing something like this until we get some things more concrete. We are working on doing that. But we really can't move on anything until we have enough commitment to make an offer on some property.

We have a couple irons in the fire with like minded people who could possibly afford a larger portion of property and perhaps help this move along faster. But until that is actually confirmed we cannot count on it.

Once we do we can sit down and hammer out an agreement we are all comfortable with and go from there. I think once we reach a point and decide on some property we will get even more interest and find out who is serious.
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Post by farmer on Tue 10 Feb 2009, 9:12 pm

williamforliberty,

We have four young children (ages 6-13), and I am interested. My
wife is afraid of the cold, however. But I'm trying to work on
her.

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Re: Idaho is Ron Paul Country, Come One Come All!

Post by hawkiye on Wed 11 Feb 2009, 9:18 am

Good deal welcome aboard, feel free to comment in the Roundevous section on the property thread.

As for the cold this area has mild winters. Rarely gets below 32 degrees in winter and lite snow. It is called the banana belt of Idaho.
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